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Post by Raichu111092 Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:30 pm

I really like Aki's idea, kind of en lieu of the more recent game endings, with the sun gradually setting on the characters, and the background changing.
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Post by Aki11 Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:41 am

I think your visualization's kinda different from mine rai, I don't really get watcha sayin actually>A> care to elaborate? dun really get how the sun sets and all<W<;;
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Post by videofan9864 Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:49 pm

What do you guys think if the ending music plays before the episode finishes? Maybe about 15 seconds before the actual ending credits? Some anime like Gundam Seed does it. Just to hear your opinion.
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Post by Mylodon Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:50 am

I'm against it. I find it distracting.

I enjoy an occasional song or piece of music before the ending, but only if it's related to the current story.
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Post by videofan9864 Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:57 am

Mylodon wrote:I'm against it. I find it distracting.

I enjoy an occasional song or piece of music before the ending, but only if it's related to the current story.

Oh I see, that's ok. But I hope we won't add, "to be continued" after every episode like that anime cause that would be worse.
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Post by Aki11 Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:07 am

Well I'm pretty okay with that, but maybe not as much as 15 seconds, a few seconds will do. And maybe not all the episodes, ending song could show up before the show ends depending on the episode requirements (atmosphere etc) like how they did it for soul eater's last episode. But I do agree with what video fan said, ending the anime off with to be continued for every episode just makes it looks like some kid's show... (like what happened in the pokemon anime>A>)
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Post by videofan9864 Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:21 am

Aki11 wrote:Well I'm pretty okay with that, but maybe not as much as 15 seconds, a few seconds will do. And maybe not all the episodes, ending song could show up before the show ends depending on the episode requirements (atmosphere etc) like how they did it for soul eater's last episode. But I do agree with what video fan said, ending the anime off with to be continued for every episode just makes it looks like some kid's show... (like what happened in the pokemon anime>A>)

Actually if I had my way I would prefer how they did it in Gundam Seed, like on some episodes its even more than 30 seconds. But that only goes IF our ending music is really a master piece. On the Seed/Destiny anime most of their ending themes are good so I love listening to it before ending.

Yeah let's not put in a to be continue. Even if it is a two parter and let us not please add a talking narrator which says "our heroes" (Seriously that makes me sick)
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Post by Aki11 Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:13 am

I like prelude to ending songs when the episode is about some touching moment kinda idk how to put it to words>W> Yea I like how gundam seed does it too, tho I hardly watch it hahaXD

This may seem contradicting to what I say before but on the other hand to be continued also makes the anime look somewhat similar to the game so it's also not all bad (comparing pros and cons>W>), since poke special follows the game and all. But narrator wise... AGAINST IT. DEFINITELY AGAINST IT.eAe
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Post by Joyfulldreams Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:16 pm

I dont think that's a terrible idea, so long as we pull it off correctly. It can be a very nice and subtle way to end an episode. It makes the ending seem much less 'sudden' and more of an ending to the episode. It makes the episode and the ending feel much more connected, in my opinion.

There are many other animes that pull off the 'start song just before end of episode' thing. Actually, a lot more than you probably think. MANY of the best animes do that. You barely even notice it because the song's beginning is soft, and then suddenly the episode ends and you get a good ending. Animes like Toradora!, Kimi ni Todoke, Ouran High School Host Club...you might not have noticed, but they do do that.
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Post by Aki11 Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:23 pm

I noticed that they do that!XDD But none of them were as long as gundam seed tho, just a few seconds before the real ending starts:3 But kimi ni todoke does that only sometimes I thought?*not very sure<A<*
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Post by Joyfulldreams Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:08 pm

Still, those few seconds adds a real feel of...completion to the episode, right? It makes the whole thing feel like more of a whole, rather than just opening-content-ending. Like I said, it's a really subtle effect but it really does something!
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Post by Aki11 Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:02 pm

but well you might have realized that endings with such effects are normally shoujo mangas, which have a more tranquil feel most of the time when it ends. Well there are times when it won't fit too, we'll have to think about it. And it also depends on the music we will get from the music team in the future.
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Post by videofan9864 Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:47 pm

Aki11 wrote:I noticed that they do that!XDD But none of them were as long as gundam seed tho, just a few seconds before the real ending starts:3 But kimi ni todoke does that only sometimes I thought?*not very sure<A<*

Yeah other than Gundam Seed and another Fushigi Yuugi, no other anime (that I know) does playing the ending music for more than 10 seconds before the actual ending.

My best suggestion is that after deciding on ending themes and everyone finds them really really good then we make a vote if we will do this style (playing music before ending) and maybe a secondary poll of how many seconds. Oh also after the last episode of each saga we could play the whole end song and a clip show from random episodes of the saga.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:23 am

i like it if it's the last episode or something xD or some dramatic stuff happened.

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Post by Aki11 Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:25 am

cool and that would make things more special when in normal eps endings start on cue but the more meaningful ones start earlier and allXD
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:31 am

yes~ ^^ some kind of a dramatic effect xD like shocking, sad moments and cliffhangers : P will this satisfy everyone?

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Post by videofan9864 Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:19 am

irisfate19 wrote:yes~ ^^ some kind of a dramatic effect xD like shocking, sad moments and cliffhangers : P will this satisfy everyone?

Or we could intentionally have good cliff hangers on all the episodes by mixing up some scenes if necessary. As long as the story isn't affected we could do some chapters/scenes before others and have cliff hangers on all episode endings. We don't necessarily end the episodes after the end of chapters.

I have confidence that more than 2 chapters will fit an episode so example on the Mt Moon chapter we could stop the episode when Koga appears with the Rockets, or when red is at pewter gym and after the semi finals we could stop the episode when Brock is observing him.
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Post by Joyfulldreams Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:01 am

Ahem...I just realized, that maybe we shouldn't forget that we should actually put credits and disclaimers on our opening and endings. XD Like, how in normal animes they have that 10-second thing where they say sponsors, instead we'll have a really long disclaimer and attributions. And at the beginning AND possible the ending we'll have credits. =3
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Post by Aki11 Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:21 am

We'll decide that once we're more into the project, lets not dwell on the thinking/dreaming aspect for too longXD
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Post by Ama-chan Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:01 pm

I dont personally think, in a Shounen based manga fanime, we should have the slow draw of the ending, unless its special episodes like an ending or loss episode. And yeah, the complete ending and possibly a lack of opening with scenes into the ending (like D.N.Angels ending, hai?) Would be good at the end of episodes.

For the 'To Be Continued', at the end of a series, or as trailers and teasers, alright. But at the end of ever episode??? I dont agree, its a given that it'll be continued, unless our project ends, which we will have to put a notice up... The Pokemon 'To Be Continued' thing drives me crazy, not many anime do that, because, as I said, its a given. I think it can be put in, but please, not every episode... -.-;
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Post by Mrtweetums Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:55 pm

Ama-chan wrote:I dont personally think, in a Shounen based manga fanime, we should have the slow draw of the ending, unless its special episodes like an ending or loss episode. And yeah, the complete ending and possibly a lack of opening with scenes into the ending (like D.N.Angels ending, hai?) Would be good at the end of episodes.

For the 'To Be Continued', at the end of a series, or as trailers and teasers, alright. But at the end of ever episode??? I dont agree, its a given that it'll be continued, unless our project ends, which we will have to put a notice up... The Pokemon 'To Be Continued' thing drives me crazy, not many anime do that, because, as I said, its a given. I think it can be put in, but please, not every episode... -.-;

perhaps the "to be continued" should only be for large cliffhangers, but like ama-chan said, not every episode. that would take away from the episode itself.
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Post by kaito109 Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:44 am

This was not one of my ideas and I dont know the person who did this video but we can talk to her and ask her if she can help us with the opening!!!!!I consider this opening a good opening!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybOKD1_XIYM

Remember i dont own this i just want you to see this video and maybe we could get some ideas!!
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Post by Mrtweetums Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:57 pm

kaito109 wrote:This was not one of my ideas and I dont know the person who did this video but we can talk to her and ask her if she can help us with the opening!!!!!I consider this opening a good opening!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybOKD1_XIYM

Remember i dont own this i just want you to see this video and maybe we could get some ideas!!

I've seen this. The first thingi found when searching pokespeanime. It kinda looks fannish, but still a great video!
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Post by dabeatmaster123 Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:04 pm

@ kaito and tweetums: Ive seen it too ^^ pretty good but its the same format as the shaman king OP. *shot*

But yeah its good animation O.O
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Post by Aki11 Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:54 pm

That's a parody of a real anime and this sorta thing could be done without animation knowledge all you have to do is to follow their timing and spacing. However, I won't deny that doing this is very tediousXDD;

PS: the person who made this aint almasilver, she's just an uploader and that video is made by a japanese from niconico so it'll be hard for us to contact him/her^^;
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