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Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by SaiTurtlesninjaNX on Tue May 11, 2010 10:53 am

We all know that you can't catch someone else pokemon. In the manga Red catch Misty Gyarados in Round 6 but in a later round Red said that's is very difficult to catch a pokémon that already belongs to another trainer which counteracting the fact that he caught Misty's Gyarados. So I'm wanteding if we should change it to that Red some how fines or gets a hold of Gyarados pokeball and use Gyara own pokeball to recatch it thouse fixxing the continuity error.

The only side effect is that Gyara pokeball have to be a Great Ball because the manga said that Gym Leaders are provided with Great Ball by the Pokémon Association.
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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by Nol on Tue May 11, 2010 11:58 am

Well, in the games, the main reason that a pokeball wouldn't capture other trainer's pokemon is because they would block the ball if you tried it. So maybe the Gyarados was fair game since Misty wasn't around to defend it?

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by Joyfulldreams on Tue May 11, 2010 12:36 pm

Misty was the original trainer anyways, so I don't think it really matters... ^_^; I don't want to change much of anything, I thought that was a bit weird too, but the manga does have a lot of real-world differences from the games. Physics and real-time strategy matters, and there is no real almighty force stopping you from catching a rouge pokemon that belongs to someone else and then giving that pokemon back to the original owner. ._.; I dunno, but I like that scene, and I don't want to over-complicate it.

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by SaiTurtlesninjaNX on Tue May 11, 2010 12:38 pm

Will that didn't really change anything we all know that you can't do that for whatever reason. People are stell going to wander how Red caught Misty Gyarados. Just to be on the safe side we should show Red catching Gyarados with it's own pokeball. It not a big change so we use a Great Ball instedit of a pokeball and if people ask we will say that Red used Gyarados pokeball to recatch it.

Joy they counteract it leter in the manga. The was still new at the time. If it's wasn't for the fact that they counteract it I wlounld want to change it ether. So have Red used Gyarados pokeball which is a Great Ball to recatch it isn't really changing that must of a change.


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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by Joyfulldreams on Tue May 11, 2010 12:41 pm

Uuuuuh....we'll have to talk about that when we get to it. XD Right now, I wanna focus on the first episode. >-<

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by SaiTurtlesninjaNX on Tue May 11, 2010 12:57 pm

Even those we not the yet I do think It's a good idae the at least have notes like this so we know that we have them when we get there.

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by Aki11 on Tue May 11, 2010 11:54 pm

my guess is that when team rocket stole misty's gyarados, it's treated as a case of "releasing" the pokemon in the games, in which the gyarados returns to being wild and red is able to capture it again. more in dept analysis would be comparing this to the case when all of red's pokeballs broke and he had to recapture all his pokemon into new pokeballs. What team rocket could have done is that they destroyed gyarados's pokeball once they stole it so that gyarados becomes wild again. And just because misty told red that gyarados is hers doesn't mean that it is hers at that time, because it could have been in the "wild" state when misty is battling it and what she's trying to do actually is to recapture it.

dunno, probably thinking too much tho<A<;

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by Ama-chan on Wed May 12, 2010 5:57 am

Aki11 wrote:my guess is that when team rocket stole misty's gyarados, it's treated as a case of "releasing" the pokemon in the games, in which the gyarados returns to being wild and red is able to capture it again. more in dept analysis would be comparing this to the case when all of red's pokeballs broke and he had to recapture all his pokemon into new pokeballs. What team rocket could have done is that they destroyed gyarados's pokeball once they stole it so that gyarados becomes wild again. And just because misty told red that gyarados is hers doesn't mean that it is hers at that time, because it could have been in the "wild" state when misty is battling it and what she's trying to do actually is to recapture it.

dunno, probably thinking too much tho<A<;


Thats completely what I was going to say, lolz. Plus, if he used Gyara's pokeball, wouldn't he just be able to return in into the ball insted of having to catch it? I thing we should just have a really short explination as to why Gyara is wild at the time, and just keep it as him catching it... Otherwise, idk, it could be problamatic somehow, lolz.

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by irisfate19 on Wed May 12, 2010 6:23 am

oh, nice explanation, Aki. O:
we can just use that. xD wild state hm.. never thought about that..

anyway thanks for bringing this up, Sai~ >w>

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by SaiTurtlesninjaNX on Wed May 12, 2010 10:52 am

That is a good explanation Aki. A broken pokeball turn Gyarados back to wild state but we are going to have to come up with a way to show that somehow. We can do that when we get there.

Lets just focus on the first episode for now.

I say this thread should still be open for when we get there or in case someone else come up with aonther explanation.

Ether way we are going to have explain on how Red catch Misty Gyarados.

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by Aki11 on Thu May 13, 2010 6:07 am

I think that isn't necessary tho, the fact that misty needs to recapture gyarados instead of using it's pokeball to return it already implies that it is wild and all. and honestly speaking i don't find it to be a loophole, thought it was pretty obvious actually...

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by SaiTurtlesninjaNX on Thu May 13, 2010 7:12 am

It not that obvious. I find it to be error but it's a small error that can be fix with a short simble explanation. If we go with broken pokeball turn Gyarados back to wild state thing we still need to explain a lettle. Even if we have Misty say somewhere that Gyarados pokeball was broken a small explanation is better then nothing.

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by Mylodon on Fri May 14, 2010 1:04 am

But Misty wouldn't know what happened. Only team rocket knows what they actually did to Gyara.
If we put an explanation in there, the characters will be breaking the fourth wall.

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by SilverKiyoko on Fri May 14, 2010 7:30 am

Wait. Even though it's not probable, some poeple saw that there have been some instances in the anime that shows that a broken pokeball=that pokemon becomes a wild one. Like when Jesse broke Dustox's pokeball so that it won't come back (not sure if anyone saw that episode). With the lack of pokemon fans, again, I doubt anyone saw it.

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Re: Red catch Misty Gyarados

Post by SaiTurtlesninjaNX on Fri May 14, 2010 10:03 am

Mylodon wrote:But Misty wouldn't know what happened. Only team rocket knows what they actually did to Gyara.
If we put an explanation in there, the characters will be breaking the fourth wall.


When we we get this episode I still think we should have some kind of a explanation on how Red catch Misty Gyarados. If we don't and people start asking about on how Red catch Misty Gyarados will don't say I didn't told you guys so. Will anyways I'm should we can come up with a small explanation and how to put in.

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